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02-29-2016, 08:12 AM
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Bob, I gave your post a cursory examination, and I think my answer is "No". Or maybe "Yes".
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02-29-2016, 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Slater
what precisely is the problem with redundancy?
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At the risk of being redundant (both of my last two posts, including this present one, are exactly the same (and, yes, I went out of my way to make that as intentionally redundant as I could possibly make it--on purpose)):
While in many cases there is no problem, being vigilant about redundancy requires us to think about our words; pointing out redundancies encourages (and in some cases might help) others do the same.
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02-29-2016, 09:40 AM
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You can say that again.
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03-01-2016, 11:39 AM
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In, on or at Cambridge Station yesterday I was invited to sit tight while the two sections of the train were "coupled together".
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03-01-2016, 04:31 PM
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PS
"in three short weeks..."
"in just two brief months..." grrrrrrr
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03-01-2016, 05:38 PM
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I recently heard "We shared the same taxi" - I'd like to have seen them share a different one.
We all know what people mean, so there's not a lack of communication - only a lack of precision with the language. It doesn't make me cringe the way that seeing something like "Your a really good friend" does!
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03-02-2016, 07:29 AM
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Jayne, what would you say about a sentence like, "I'm wearing the same shoes I wore yesterday"? If you left out the word "same," it wouldn't change the literal meaning (I don't think), but somehow it doesn't sound redundant. Does it to you?
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03-02-2016, 08:17 AM
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I was just reading an article by Matt Taibbi on George W. Bush. I thought this apropos:
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"It's very important for folks to understand that when there's more trade, there's more commerce" was a classic Bush formulation. "Our nation must come together to unite" was another. One of my favorites was: "I understand that the unrest in the Middle East creates unrest throughout the region."
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03-02-2016, 09:34 AM
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Watching John Cusak's "The Raven" this morning, I caught two in one line of "Annabelle Lee":..."neither the angels in Heaven above, nor the demons down under the sea,...".
Here where I live, the second may be arguable, though, as I have often heard the phrase "up under". ["It ran up under the chester drawers."]
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03-02-2016, 11:18 AM
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Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!
Up above the world so high,
Like a diamond in the sky.
Hmm, I always knew it was redundant to say "twinkle" twice, but I hadn't considered "up above."
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